The battle against light pollution goes through policy and legislation. Certain regions of the world are actually in a better situation than you might think. While the road ahead is long, we talked to those who are paving the way.

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The episode features:

Yana Yakushina, lawyer at the Space Court Foundation

Rayan Khan, founder of Cosmic Tribe

Dr John Berentine, Principal Consultant at Dark Sky Consulting LLC

Robert Massey, Deputy Executive Director of the Royal Astronomical Society

Jasmine van der Pol, Senior Programme Manager LUCI Association

Dani Robertson, Dark Sky Officer for Eryri National Park and the Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty

Dr Michelle Wooten, Assistant Professor of Astronomy Education at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.